I think that if you are raising kids it is your duty tio prepare them for what they will have to face in the world and one of those things, if the kid is of darker skin, is racism. That is one of the many reasons I am skeptical of interacial adoption because white parents may not know how to teach this to black kids or may not see the value of it.
I agree with Umar. At first I wasn’t sure whether to go into it with my daughter or at what age, but I started introducing the concept at about 7 and I think it was the right thing to do. I didn’t want her to be side swiped when she got older and is faced with it. One thing I didn’t teach her was she has to work twice as hard because I really resented that aspect of “the talk” when my grandfather gave it to me. I told her to always do her best and not to compare herself to others and if she set and stays true to her own high standards she will be ok.
Well this is kind of like poor white kids, they are told that being white people will think that they are push overs and can’t fight, so they have to toughen up and show’em what they got, and not let people get over on them. For some white kids this breeds feelings of deficiency, which makes them prone to white power movements.
In the end of the day both black power and white power movements lead to the same thing, which is denying another person his rights becasue of the way God created him.
I guess the answer is the teach them humility to God alone, and not to stand for their rights, nor anyone elses rights regardless of color, to get taken away or transgressed upon.
The idea has to based in the principle of God-consciousness, otherwise they will transgress against each other
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“And most of those that share [in life] will transgress against each other, except those that believe and do righteous deeds; and how few they are”
Saad:24
I agree with Br Hood. The other day I was chatting with a Sister who thought that if I did not insist to my daughter that she was black than she would think she was better than blacks, including her younger sister who is a shade or two darker than she is. I told her that I always tell her that Allah does not judge us based on our race but who is the most pious. The sister asked well what does she think she is. I told her that she knows she is mixed and the sister said well she needs to know she is black, not white (no one drop rule here in KSA so they see her and call her white), not mixed but black. By the time I got off finish chatting I was exhausted and thinking why can’t I just tell her she is Muslim?
I agree with teaching we are Muslims and human beings first. And then just teaching them that some people are not going to like you because you are Muslim, Black, tall, fat, skinny, whatever. Some people will find any reason to not like you.
I would present positive images of Blackness, read positive literature, study African History as well as Islamic History. Its much more powerful to be positive then to burden a child with a chip on their sholder from an early age.
salams everyone! you know one day my son came up to me and asked what he was? cause his father and i are an interraciial couple. i told him first of all before all else you’re a muslim. second when you stand in front of allah he wont ask about what race, but of your deeds and how you did them. now alot of people find the need to tell their children that they are white or black or whatever the race. but you know what i really find this to be petty. these parents are more into making their children more proud to be a certain race whereas they should be proud to be a muslim and be proud to serve and worship their lord. my son never came back to me after that day to ask me a question like that ever again. he’s 11 and way more mature than most adults i’ve known. i asked him why all of a sudden did he want to know? he said he was just curious. I told him to be humble and rememeber Allah at all times. Know that to him we come and to him we return. I dont want my children wasting their lives being proud of being white or whatever race they are. i want them to stand in front of allah on the day of judgement and rejoice at doing well in their lives and benefitting others with their knowledge inshallah. and most of all going to jannah.
I dont rememebr anything in the quran and sunnah about teaching your children about rascism and that this was going to benefit them in their deen or life in some way. yes they do have to know about it but the way some people are in telling their biracial children that they are one race and not the other just isnt right to begin with. thats not fair to the child or the other parent that they excluded. as if they have some deficiency in their race. may allah guide us all. ameen
We should tell the about the ugly parts and people in this world. However, it should be fortified with possitive examples of the opposite. We warn our children about Shatyan and we should warn them about Shaytans army. I was called a porch monkey when I was about 9 when i spent the summer in Alberquerque NM by a white boy. My parents didn’t tell me much about race issues and I wasn’t offended at all by what the boy said. However, I had a feeling that it wasn’t right and so I punched him. His mother came outside and asked what was wrong. His brother proceeded to tell his mother what his brothers said. She replied: See thats what you get for listening to your stupid father. She walked back into the house and I went home and reported the incident to my family. I had a lesson in race relations after that and it didn’t cause me to hate white people. So I think I will tell Idriss (my son) that he must treat everyone with respect and take their word at face value but don’t be blind to the verbal and physical test that might come your way. Be a man and fear no one and check anyone right on the spot if they every talk to you in a way thats any where less than how a man should be spoken too.
I think that if you are raising kids it is your duty tio prepare them for what they will have to face in the world and one of those things, if the kid is of darker skin, is racism. That is one of the many reasons I am skeptical of interacial adoption because white parents may not know how to teach this to black kids or may not see the value of it.
I say: case by case basis. Each kid’s different. Feel it out and use your intuition.
I agree with Umar. At first I wasn’t sure whether to go into it with my daughter or at what age, but I started introducing the concept at about 7 and I think it was the right thing to do. I didn’t want her to be side swiped when she got older and is faced with it. One thing I didn’t teach her was she has to work twice as hard because I really resented that aspect of “the talk” when my grandfather gave it to me. I told her to always do her best and not to compare herself to others and if she set and stays true to her own high standards she will be ok.
Well this is kind of like poor white kids, they are told that being white people will think that they are push overs and can’t fight, so they have to toughen up and show’em what they got, and not let people get over on them. For some white kids this breeds feelings of deficiency, which makes them prone to white power movements.
In the end of the day both black power and white power movements lead to the same thing, which is denying another person his rights becasue of the way God created him.
I guess the answer is the teach them humility to God alone, and not to stand for their rights, nor anyone elses rights regardless of color, to get taken away or transgressed upon.
The idea has to based in the principle of God-consciousness, otherwise they will transgress against each other
{ ??????? ???????? ????? ??????????? ????????? ?????????? ????? ?????? ?????? ????????? ??????? ?????????? ????????????? ????????? ???? }?24
“And most of those that share [in life] will transgress against each other, except those that believe and do righteous deeds; and how few they are”
Saad:24
I agree with Br Hood. The other day I was chatting with a Sister who thought that if I did not insist to my daughter that she was black than she would think she was better than blacks, including her younger sister who is a shade or two darker than she is. I told her that I always tell her that Allah does not judge us based on our race but who is the most pious. The sister asked well what does she think she is. I told her that she knows she is mixed and the sister said well she needs to know she is black, not white (no one drop rule here in KSA so they see her and call her white), not mixed but black. By the time I got off finish chatting I was exhausted and thinking why can’t I just tell her she is Muslim?
Umm Adam, in the Muslim world, it’s better to go with the flow since you can and let your kids be white.
I agree with teaching we are Muslims and human beings first. And then just teaching them that some people are not going to like you because you are Muslim, Black, tall, fat, skinny, whatever. Some people will find any reason to not like you.
I would present positive images of Blackness, read positive literature, study African History as well as Islamic History. Its much more powerful to be positive then to burden a child with a chip on their sholder from an early age.
salams everyone! you know one day my son came up to me and asked what he was? cause his father and i are an interraciial couple. i told him first of all before all else you’re a muslim. second when you stand in front of allah he wont ask about what race, but of your deeds and how you did them. now alot of people find the need to tell their children that they are white or black or whatever the race. but you know what i really find this to be petty. these parents are more into making their children more proud to be a certain race whereas they should be proud to be a muslim and be proud to serve and worship their lord. my son never came back to me after that day to ask me a question like that ever again. he’s 11 and way more mature than most adults i’ve known. i asked him why all of a sudden did he want to know? he said he was just curious. I told him to be humble and rememeber Allah at all times. Know that to him we come and to him we return. I dont want my children wasting their lives being proud of being white or whatever race they are. i want them to stand in front of allah on the day of judgement and rejoice at doing well in their lives and benefitting others with their knowledge inshallah. and most of all going to jannah.
I dont rememebr anything in the quran and sunnah about teaching your children about rascism and that this was going to benefit them in their deen or life in some way. yes they do have to know about it but the way some people are in telling their biracial children that they are one race and not the other just isnt right to begin with. thats not fair to the child or the other parent that they excluded. as if they have some deficiency in their race. may allah guide us all. ameen
We should tell the about the ugly parts and people in this world. However, it should be fortified with possitive examples of the opposite. We warn our children about Shatyan and we should warn them about Shaytans army. I was called a porch monkey when I was about 9 when i spent the summer in Alberquerque NM by a white boy. My parents didn’t tell me much about race issues and I wasn’t offended at all by what the boy said. However, I had a feeling that it wasn’t right and so I punched him. His mother came outside and asked what was wrong. His brother proceeded to tell his mother what his brothers said. She replied: See thats what you get for listening to your stupid father. She walked back into the house and I went home and reported the incident to my family. I had a lesson in race relations after that and it didn’t cause me to hate white people. So I think I will tell Idriss (my son) that he must treat everyone with respect and take their word at face value but don’t be blind to the verbal and physical test that might come your way. Be a man and fear no one and check anyone right on the spot if they every talk to you in a way thats any where less than how a man should be spoken too.
Excellent advice Sisters!!!
That Canadian Survey surprised me compared to the recent CNN survey in the US.