More from D’Souza…

More fair thoughts by Dinesh D’Souza on the Turkish elections and some pundits’ thoughts of a “good Muslim”:

From the point of view of these pundits, the only good Muslim is an ex-Muslim, and the best protection for Christians living in a Muslim country is secularism. But Christians no less than Muslims are threatened by Turkey’s militant secularism. This secularism is so extreme that it forbids Muslims and Christians from wearing veils and crosses in public buildings. One of the secular parties’ biggest gripes was that the wives of AK officials wear headscarves in public! And if you look at the responses to my previous blog posting on Turkey, you’ll see that my very modest argument for letting traditional Muslims govern Muslim countries according to Muslim values provoked several people to intemperate outpourings of abuse. This is secular bigotry pure and simple, and it is not only inconsistent with tolerance, it is also inconsistent with democracy. [More...]

The demand from some is that a Muslim be so secular that he/she is not Muslim anymore. A “good Muslim” according to these people, is one that drinks alcohol, womanizes and does not pray. Only then can he/she be a “good Muslim”. This is why if a religious Muslim - that rejects terrorism and cultural lunacy (FGM, Honor Killings, death cult etc) - is still suspect to some of these people if they are practicing their faith to any extent at all other than calling themselves “Muslim”.

I am glad that people like Mr. D’souza sees through this (and receives much abuse for it)

10 Responses to “More from D’Souza…”

  1. Tariq - I respect you for your thoughts and clear stand on the ‘T’ issue. However i would take exception to this piece.
    I am a non muslim so this is the ‘infidel’ perspective.

    I am troubled by your sweeping stereotypes…an act that the Muslim world tars the non with.
    So if yhou are not a Jehadi you, like, gotta be a guy who ‘drinks alcohol, womanizes and does not pray’. I mean what happened to the middle way??? That you can be a peacable person who does none of these things but still believes (truly so) that killing people is wrong and you genuinely respect other people right to faith? See - that was not so hard was it?
    Do you seriously imagnine the rest of teh world would give 2 hoots what you did with your faith if you guys were not so obsessed with the spread of Islam in non Muslim countries?
    After all, the Muslim world was largely left alone till Mr Ladin showed up…
    B y dividing the world into these 2 convenient polar oppposites you are guilty of the same act that you frame the MSM with - STEREOTYPING.
    The truth is the Islamic world is so full of RAGE that being a peacable person adn accepting the world as is just does not fit into the Islamist worldview.
    Just my 2 cents.

  2. Desi:

    You are making many of my points. But there are some who believe that the only good Muslim is one that does not practice Islam at all. If one happens to be a practicing Muslim, then by association (to these people) this person - by extension - must endorse terrorism, FGM, honor killings etc. I am saying that this is not true and want to separate the thought of a religious Muslim from one that is a terrorist or irrational medievalist.

  3. Desi,

    “The Muslim world was largely left alone until Mr. Ladin showed up”

    Hmmm..The ignorance reflected in this statement is so vast that it is literally stunning. How to even begin a discussion with such a person…?

    Desi, I would suggest if you are a sincere person of good will interested in the issues start by reading something about what you are going to talk about so that you have some connection with reality.

    Peace.

  4. I guess “Desi” needs to read some about Middle Eastern history. It is amazing that a person who comes from an area that has so much history and baggage based on their colonial experience would be so ignorant of others very same experience.

    I suggest Desi, to catch up with current events, read a bit about the British in Iraq and the foundations they laid which have a large role in where the situation is today in that country.

  5. I don’t think it’s a matter of fearing practicing individuals as much as it is the fear that Muslims (practicing or otherwise) are obligated to live under Sharia, without question.

  6. My comment in 5 was about Turkey and not people in the U.S.

  7. Mantra,

    This same type of fear was cited by the Nazis about the fear of Jews taking over the world and enforcing their code, whether it was Judaism, Capitalism or Communism. It is an excuse to justify hate.

    I guess we could turn the tables around and say “I dont think it is a fear of Americans rather than Americans, knowingly or unknowingly, wanting to export their culture and economical supremicism, without question.”

  8. AA

    “This same type of fear was cited by the Nazis about the fear of Jews taking over the world and enforcing their code, whether it was Judaism, Capitalism or Communism. It is an excuse to justify hate.”

    Abu Sinan is right. The best thing to do right now is hold tightly onto the din. Furthermore, despite what some may think, military action could never further OUR cause. In fact it only works against our cause at this point, the holy prophet (s.a.w.s.) has given us the answers but we are not listening. We should hold tightly onto this religion and his way. Because its his way that they are really attacking… Jews are Believers, Christians are Believers but I do not see them targeted this way. It is the way of the Prophet (s.a.w.s.) that is being attacked.

  9. Abu Sinan,

    Like I said, my comment was about secularists in Turkey and not the perceptions of people in the West.

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