To Be A Dad
More than 79% of Americans feel “the most significant family or social problem facing America is the physical absence of the father from the home.” Research shows that the lack of a father in the home correlates closely with crime, educational and emotional problems, teenage pregnancy, and drug and alcohol abuse.
In an effort to show dads the critical role they play in their children’s lives, the Ad Council has partnered with the National Responsible Fatherhood Clearinghouse and volunteer ad agency Campbell-Ewald to create a PSA campaign that communicates to fathers that their presence is essential to their children’s well-being. The campaign provides fathers with the information they need to become better dads.
Some of the PSAs are below:
About the Fatherhood Campaign:
Filed under: Children's Issues
Good post. Good info. Happy holidays!
A huge part of this problem lies in the complexities of non-custodial parenting. The solution is what the ACFC calls shared parenting. The problem arises when the government gives sole (authority) custody to one parent usually the mother. This strips the father of his natural authority to govern and regulate the family affairs. The government garnishes his paycheck. This is a subtle way of taking his power and authority over his family. It tells the mother you don’t need a man you got Uncle Sam. The welfare system and the child support system essentially say the same thing. If you kick your man out the house the government will take care of you.
These men need practical solutions not touchy feely emotional pleas. My simple advice to fathers who do not have custody of your kids is this. Number one get your money right, number two stipulate as much of the child support as you can so that it actually gets to your kids. Send them to private school, create savings accounts for their college, and have that figured into the child support. Number three get your children cell phones so you can keep in regular contact with them.
There is a documentary coming out detailing the injustices of the family courts and how it adversely effects men, women, and children.
http://www.supportthemovie.com/
The Fatherhood Initiative is not simply a “touchy feely” emotional plea. That which I posted above was simply a PSA - which is just PART of what this initiative is about. If one takes part in the initiatives there are a lot of practical suggestions.
We are certainly not against what you said. In fact, many of the men I work with are not only ALREADY doing the things you listed and a lot more, but are LEADING THE WAY. The PSA is designed to get more men involved in their children’s lives. That is just ONE thing we are doing
In fact many of us involved in this have already created college savings accounts and work extremely hard to correct the system. We are giving speeches in the community. We are working with young men. It was very unfair to paint such a picture of these men. I know many of them personally and they are hard working and upstanding family men. So to attack these men is to attack the wrong people.
And finally it is very unfair to say that we are calling for government to take care of children. Nothing could be further from the truth. It is just the opposite. Please visit the site and get the correct information
Thanks for posting this Tariq. There are far too many selfish fathers that are not stepping up to the plate and this is a good program. I have been working in the community to get black men to be real men as well. I know the work that you are doing and we need more to replicate this.
Bolstering your point, the welfare policies we had were a disaster. The black community has a cultural problem in many ways. So we need cultural change. We need to instill values of hard work, thrift and education. It takes men and women together to do this. And if we want to reinforce that cultural change, you want to design government policies that reward the correct behaviors and make it expensive to have the wrong and damaging behaviors.
At the same time, we have to continue to do what we can on the grassroots to make change and not cry about things we have no control over.
I am planning to go to 12 different cities in 2009 to speak about these issues and a lot more to try to work to affect change on the ground. I encourage all men to do what they can in their areas as well
Great post. I suggest reading to the children at night as well. Never miss an opportunity to bond. You never know how far small things like that go. Every minute is precious. Also let your kids know that you love them.
Rasheed,
I think you’re a bit off-base. As a social scientist, I have taken a bit of time. I will concede that the problem that is faced here is not solved by things such as well fare or how the court adjudicates, but that’s far from Tariq’s point.
No - in fact, the government is trying to do what the fathers ought to be doing. And while we need a better system [a la Tariq's post], it will not due to berate the system and then vis-a-vie, the women involved in it, implicating them as either man-hating or procreating just to get a pay check.
I would go back and rethink my words if I were you.
Rasheed says, “If you kick your man out the house the government will take care of you.”
I doubt any sane woman would kick out a hardworking, good man. No amount of government assistance or Uncle Sam could equal the value of a good husband and father, I don’t understand what you meant by that statement. Its clear there is something being left out of the equation. Getting kicked out of the house means you are a deadbeat or extra weight, period.
I support this campaign 100%. I can go on and on about the impact my father had on my development, and the person I am today. There were 6 of us growing up, and he walked that line between friend and disciplinarian most gracefully. My brothers and I could go to him with ANYthing, and he never missed a chance to teach a lesson (even if this meant pulling over on random roads). He set a very high standard for us, but allowed, and even encouraged mistakes. If I ever needed comfort he was the first person I went to, and was often the only person I needed to go to.
As a woman, I feel my father’s presence in my life was (save Allah) my saving grace. He understood the unique needs of his daughter and took every chance to build my confidence and cement a high self esteem. He spoke to me very candidly about the pitfalls of many women when it comes to men, and equipped me with the confidence and self love to demand better for myself. As a little girl, he entertained all my home concerts and even appointed himself my main drummer:) I have many more memories but my point is that no amount of money, phone calls, or visits can replace an ever present father. When I think back to my happiest childhood memories my father is always in them, and most often, the reason for them.
Good fathers, and campaigns like these MUST be supported.
Thanks Br. Tariq for this wonderful post.
I loved my Father and I know the importance of this in a child’s life.
My father lived a hard life, but he took that in stride and did the best that he could with the cards he was dealt. And in so doing, he taught us to do the same. DON’T CRY ABOUT IT, FIX IT was his philosophy, and it was a lesson hard learned, as important lessons often are.
My father was a great man. He touched everyone around him in such a positive way. He loved his family with a passion that was unquestioned, and he was proud of each of us in so many ways. He is the reason that I am the person that I am today.
Thanks for posting Tariq. I would also like to share this one:
http://blackfatherhood.com/
Men concerned about child support and custody should read this book
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0976477203?ie=UTF8&tag=purequalenter-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0976477203
The key is to get custody
Great post. Interestingly enough while visiting family recently and seeing how a number of responsible fathers in their 50’s and 60’s interact with their children, I pondered the question of what happened to the men in my generation (20-40). I see so many older fathers, like my grandfather, who remained married for decades and were an integral part in their children’s upbringing. This is not to suggest that my grandfather was perfect, because he wasn’t. But, he did remain an integral part of his children’s lives until his death in 1993 at around age 73. I’m not sure if something went awry in how young men are reared or if “ghetto culture” has just stripped the African-American community of so much of its values that we’ve just lost our way. Certainly, the legacy of slavery also plays a role in much of the ills that plague African-Americans as well.
A good friend of mine is working with her family to start an all male school for young men called the Washington Academic Leadership Institute (www.wali-dc.org) to try and restore a sense of pride and dignity to young men. This is one of many institutions that we can throw our support behind. Often when I look at the problems in the black community, I remember Dubois’s notion of a “talented tenth”. Perhaps, if we all roll up our sleeves in become active in mentoring, academic enrichment and other activities focused on young males, we can begin to turn the tide on some of these issues. Ghandi also said to be the change that you seek in the world, so modeling responsible behavior can also help. Sometimes all it takes is one person to make a tremendous difference for a young person or a young adult who has already had children or faced other challenges.
@Wayne_D. Great site!
To be a DAD in islam is to be married BEFORE conception of the child!!!!!!…so why highlight a bunch of kufaar who define a toss in the sack .”paternity “..? Let’s highlight the dangers of fornication and the effects on the life of the Bastard child…..zeena babies are not blameful. But the mothers of these offspring are the ones to blame for being careless…….The ruling for fornication is the same in judao-christian background(as they categorize it) the child is a bastard and has no father and is attributed to the mother….as, what was practiced in usa and still is, slightly>>>>> But nowadays due to a breakdown in society’s morals and manners ….it is normal to hump someone like an animal then play daddy…..That’s how disgusting the west has became and was…..and then the man find himself in child support court paying for a one night stand!!!!! Unlissted2008-2009
@ unlissted
Who here has condoned fornication? Secondly, do you suggest that new Muslims abandon child that they had before Islam? Many were glad to hear that ruling and abandoned many children upon hearing it.
Ahhh, what mercy
@ DC Muslimah
“…and restore a sense of pride and dignity to young men.”
“…if we all roll up our sleeves in become active in mentoring, academic enrichment and other activities focused on young males, we can begin to turn the tide on some of these issues.”
Pride in what? Being Black? The Messenger of Allaah said in a well-known, authentic Hadith that anyone who has pride, even the amount of a mustard seed, will not enter JENNAH!!!
Dubois and Ghandi were both mushriks (polytheistis) so who cares about them, and anything they had to say. We are supposed to follow the Prophet Muhammad (salallaahu alayhi wa salam). Please protect your Islaam from being polluted by black nationalism because it is haraam.
All of this talk of “black nationalism” is a straw man that does not even deserve a response, but I will explain this once.
All we are talking about is social and community responsibility
I REFUSE to allow someone to tell me that taking care of my children is “nationalism” or somehow “haraam” or whatever. I do not even pay that crap any attention whatsoever.
I will NOT abandon my children and I will strive and WORK HARD to instill strong values of hard work and education in them. This is something that I believe
Call it whatever you want to call it., but your arguments against me and this message are all nonsense in my book
I do not accept your arguments
@ Tariq
I hope you weren’t mocking the ruling about the children of fornication with your statement “Ahhh, what mercy”. That position is backed up by the Prophetic Sunnah. You can’t begin to address absentee fathers without addressing the cause of it, and that is fornication. Now, your “black brothers and sisters” will flee from you if you start getting on them about fornication.
You should have responded to Unlissted by talking about the way that Muslims from our tribe, who still prefer to act like niggas rather than believers, used that part of the Sunnah as an excuse to abandon their responsibilities. The problem ain’t with the Hadith because it was revealed to the Messenger of Allaah (salallaahu alayhi wa salam) from Allaah! The problem comes from wide-spread ignorance of the Deen in our tribe.
By the way, although I am NOT a “black nationalist” (I believe that they are losers in this new era by the way) meanwhile there is nothing wrong with being an Arab nationalist and claiming they have racial superiority over others. But if someone tries to take care of his family, he is CONSTANTLY berated, dogged and called names for doing something “wrong” and “evil”. But a man that marries 30 times and abandons his children is praised and given the platform as a “man of Sunnah” - and I do believe you KNOW EXACTLY who I am talking about.
I want no part of that Bizzaro World Daud
That’s the problem akhi, it ain’t about “your book”, it’s about Allaah’s Book and the Sunnah. And, using that as the scale to judge right from wrong, not your opinions. You’re wrong most of the time because you don’t consider the Islaamic legislation BEFORE you make statements !
Example:
You jumped over the reminder I gave to DC Muslimah, which was backed up by an authentic hadith, and ranted about something irrelevant. The point is to remind Muslims that you can’t call the Muslims to teach pride to anyone, nor can Muslims be prideful because that will get them thrown into the Hell-Fire
Tariq
Allaah’s Messenger (salallaahu alayhi wa salam) said “Wo” to the tasters i.e. those who divorce and marry again and again so whoever you’re talking about, Allaah will deal with him. However, if you got your proofs against him, then bring ‘em!!! You will not find one scholar who called to this behaviour, in fact the speak against it!!!!
RE: given the platform as a “man of Sunnah”
There is no one is the entire West who has that moniker, don’t exaggerate the status of anyone because we’re ALL ignorant over here!!!!!!!
It seems my words were grossly misconstrued I am speaking from the perspective of the non-custodial parent. I know many of the people reacting to my statements are in fact either custodial parents or have an intact family. If you do Ma Sha Allah that is good you are the ideal. You most likely are not intimately aware of the challenges faced by a non-custodial parent. When we are talking about getting father’s involved in their children’s lives we are most likely talking about a non-custodial parent. This is not a man/woman issue there are many mother’s who are non-custodial parents who have also faced the same challenges that men do in dealing with the system. This was not an attack on anyone or anybody trying to make the situation better. My point is we have to hit the problem at it’s core and that is giving more power and authority to the non-custodial parent. In fact it is my contention that there should not be a non-custodial parent and that the law should give both parents equal rights when it comes to the decision making process and spending on the children.
@ Mark
With all due respect to your academic credentials one does not have to be a social scientist to see the reality in front of ones eyes. In fact sometimes social scientists tend to look at things from a birds eye view which may give them a distorted view of reality on the ground.
Tariq ….The Ruling is that they advise and guide them and not address them as their fathers and no financial support is obliged on the sperm donor….but this country forces you to take care of something which isnt yours, no matter how much you pay…….what’s recognized from Allah is what’s truly recognized…..Children from fornication have no attribution to the male what so ever…..I never said you condoned it but your highlighting something that has no real bearing on Muslims……..Many Arab scholars have written books criticizing arab nationality…Do you even know what a arab is???? tariq (the islamic definition) not the taxi-cab,pizza store definition…lol ….marrying a billion times have been addressed by me…and that’s why I’m hunted…..I want no part of that world either…….bring me a collector to the “Woe to the tasters” hadeeth(i.e bukari,abu dawud etc) Unlizzted2008-2009
@ Rasheed Moore
THIS IS FOR MUSLIMS ONLY!!!
RE: My point is we have to hit the problem at it’s core and that is giving more power and authority to the non-custodial parent.”
Rasheed,
If you go to the Book of Allaah and the Prophetic Sunnah, you will find that we already have laws in place that cover custody.
The reminder benefits the believer. Muslims should not be going through court battles for custody of children, and that’s because Islaamic law gives the child to the father. That’s if he is not an open sinner etc…
This is a matter that we struggle with. Allaah said in Surah al Maidah that He completed His Deen for us. Allaah NEVER decreed anything that is bad for us. We really need to start fearing Allaah!
@ Unlissted
Subhanallaah Akhi. I just did some online research of the narration “Woe to the tasters…” At Tabari (rahimahullaah) brought it; however Yusuf Qaradawi–who we know shaykh Muqbil (rahimahullaah) likened to a “howling dog”, due to his ignorance of the Sunnah–put it in his book. I also found that Al Albani (rahimahullaah) declared it WEAK. Because of that I must refute myself: I free myself from this narration and mentioning it and warn the Muslims from it.
Recently me and and a brother were talking about Nikah and he mentioned that narration to me; and I had heard it before. I’ll have to relate my findings to him. May Allaah reward you…Aameen!
@ Daud
Salaam,
As Muslims we submit to what has been laid down in the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of his messenger. The wisdom behind what has been laid down in the Sharia is leaps and bounds ahead of the backwardness found in man made laws.
However the reality that we face is that we live within the confines of the United States legal system whether we like it or not. I agree with brother Tariq that we can’t be passive or complacent waiting for the legal system to change. We must do everything humanly possible within our power to protect and maintain family cohesion. This should be done in concert with consistent and persistent calls for the legal system to change so that parenting and financial responsibilities are shared equally in the case of divorce.
For more information on the legal concept of shared parenting you can visit:
http://www.acfc.org
I understand the reasoning behind the ruling of children not being attributed to their father in Muslim societies but there is no wisdom in applying it to converts who had children before their conversion and non Muslims. The people advocating for such craziness need to take into account the social problems it would cause. There is no place for injustices and irrational rulings in Islam.
Once again we have allowed a troll draped in muslim appearance to come in and take us off the point of discussion. THE BOTTOM IS THIS TO ALL YOU SLACKERS AND TRIFLING LOW LIFES DRAPED IN MUSLIM LANGUAGE SLOGANEERING BUT STILL HAVE THE CHARACTER, ATTITUDE, WORLD VIEW WORST OF THE DESERT ARABS (those were the niggas and thugs of those days). STAND UP AND BE MEN AND STOP PUNK AZZ BI@$&CHS , THEN I’LL CONSIDER WHAR YOU HAVE TO SAY.
Well it seems like me and brother Daud are the only ones who cares about authenticity and clinging to correct scholars…..Blakoak777 it seems like your describing yourself by the language you use…………quran and sunnah are slogans …huh? ….and you have the hate speech for the arabs……….I wonder how you feel about the last prophet who was ARAB….Muhammad ibn abdullah al qurayshee,al hashimee…..al ARABEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stand up and be a man to a child from conceived while married….not a Bastard ZEENA baby….blackoak777 wants muslims to claim haraam and even name them too????….Yes Rasheed the wisdom is that you adhere to financial support of a child of fornication if forced by the USA …….but never is the child named after you and you give it islamic guidance and care and love……unlissted2008-2009…Child support has made some of us broke and stupid…..
kalimat if the reverts(not converts) come from judeo-christian background and then this is something which had the same ruling….today modern republicans still have the same opinion……..chaperoned dates,and no marriage before sex and children out of wedlock is an abomination !!!!! We dont lie or hide anything about the religion…timing may be an issue but to label something injustice and irrational is deep waters for you to swim in… and is a denial of the sunnah which is denial of islam….so be careful because these things can remove ones islam…IF you meant the ruling on the “Waladul Zina”(the child of fornication) is irrational and injustice….unlizzted will make you love sunnah because the sunnah is islam…..
@ Kalimaat
Please be careful. This is not the first time you’ve come to this blog and made statements that could nullify your Islaam.
@Tariq
JazakaAllah Khayr for yet another thought provoking post, but if you bother to explain again that you are not a nationalist, I’m coming there myself and choke you. Anyone with good sense who reads your past posts already know that you are not. Please no more disclaimers for the sake of ignorants who refuse to sit with scholars and truly learn. Arguring or taking from them is like trying to learn a language from a partiot who has learned to mimic the human voice, but has no understanding of what he’s mimicing.
@Rasheed
I understand your point, but the problem is not simply that the system gives one parent sole custody or in other words is not designed to keep families intact.
No the problem is that first when people lack tawheed then other ills become exacerbated. Fornication and non-marriage is rife at all social economic of the black community, those at the higher levels are getting marriage at larger percentages but these aren’t virgins marrying virgins.
Unfortunately, there is no longer a stigma associated with pre-marrital sex. So the Muslim must include promoting abstence as part of the solution.
Now in regards to the courts you are correct they allow the children to be used as tools to abuse the non-costodial parent. This does require correction. There should be some engagment of the courts but the major point should be for the Muslims to offer alternatives such as setting our own civil arbitration body based on sharia inshaAllah whose decisions are binding in US civil courts, this requires that the bodies be setup in this land not overseas.
Getting back to the gist of the post, this PSA must be view and commended as part of the solution not THE solution, there should also be a PSA aimed at the women
“…Muslims to offer alternatives such as setting our own civil arbitration body based on sharia inshaAllah whose decisions are binding in US civil courts, this requires that the bodies be setup in this land not overseas.”
LOL…who’s going to be on this board!?! Who’s knowledge of Islaamic Law, and ALL it entails qualifies him/her to sit on this board!?! Siraaj, Sherman. What a joke; WD followers believe it’s ok for sisters to marry kuffar. This is insane!!!!!!!
What you proposed is not even permissible because we live in a non-Muslim country. We are not permitted to implement shari’eeh in the lands of the kuffar.
What the Muslims need to do is fear Allaah in this land, or move to a Muslim country.
The PSA’s are pointless because they never address the problem–fornication!!! It’s like putting a band-aid on a hemorrhage. It’s easy to get on the Muslims about fornication, but not the kuffar. They ain’t going to listen to the Muslims getting on them about their fornication.
All those jokes(american speakers) you named host and sponsor events with women dressed inappropriately,gross and haraam intermingling, in all avenues. Women and men packed in the lecture area elbow to elbow. Some coming in jeans,freely mixing….So many stories of muslim girls and boys hooking up at these events like MANA,ICNA,and ISNA….Women speakers with no modesty….a turban has replaced what Allah ordered for hijab. ..Men come in tight 2 piece suits sooo tight they display their lower organs in gross detail…..These events are a waste of time and call to haraam….unlizzted2008-2009
LOL the “joy riders” and the lazy love promotting the status quo, no accountability, not unlike those in1940’s until now who said Islam couldn’t be practiced and sharia wasn’t applicable in the US, so as to justify, the sisters not covering, the selling of the haram and the unlawful sex with non-Muslims. They even said that the Qur’an wasn’t suppose to even be brought to the US.
binding arbitration sharia courts in family and business civil matters can be setup in this country only thing that remains is the will of the Muslims to do so.
This will not be all Muslims of course, for example the sick man who can look at his 5 yr old son who looks just like him and say I will not provide for you because you resulted from fornication. No that type of Muslim will never be interested in seeing righteous leadership nor a binding civil sharia body established. In fact they bank on it not happening. Three or more Muslims should not even travel without leadership and authority being establised, yet those who CLAIM to follow scholars have been here 30+ years still uttering the same baseless refrain no scholars no leaders. These same CLAIMANTS who love name dropping with mouthfuls of gheeba never mention the names of the scholars who they personaly sat with to teach them these CLAIMS.
The Muslim with the help of Allah must seek to change his the culture of the environment in which he is living, towards Islamic values or leave.
shirk
low-self esteem
miseducation
fornication
poverty
In that order are what plagues the Blackamerican community which leads to broken families (fatherless is accusatory) and Islam has the answers for all of them.
@ Daud
Do you live in the US?
Why do you not “fear Allaah” and leave the US instead of continuing to STAY HERE to look down your nose at the rest of us
@ Abu Usamah Al-Aswad
If both parties fear Allah then then civil arbitration done by Muslims is possible. But what do we do in a situation where the custodial parent has fell off the deen or is not Fearing Allah? He/she can then go to the courts and exploit the situation to his/her maximum advantage and the arbitration of the Muslims becomes null and void. One thing I think we can do is a little preventive medicine. Number one would be to warn the community of the dangers of going to the civil courts. I know some communities have done this and have been moderately successful in solving divorces encouraging both parties to stay out of the civil courts. Even secular psychologists are warning people of the emotional damage caused by these kangaroo courts so it amazes me when I see Muslims defending them.
The arbitration would be LEGALLY binding as it is here in Virginia (yes, there is ALREADY Islamic arbitration here). You can not turn around and go to the courts after losing arbitration
@ Zaid
Inshallaah, when I finish grad school, I’m on the next thing smokin’.
Why do you have to wait until you have an ijazah from the kufar BEFORE you go to the land of your brother’s with like aqeedah, leaving this land of darul-kuf? LOL
Let’s see could be that if you go to your brothers overseas in darul-Islam without that endorsement of education from the kafir you are going to get treated like crap and won’t be able to provide for youself. LOL That’s why I think there’s still hope for you, alhamdulillah get your degree go over there teach English (though over here its a kafir language of no benefit) once you start making them petro dollars and living nice, inshaAllah you’ll have sometime to sit with scholars and learn something of the importance of adab in Islam. I see you are not as big a fool as people think, you know better than to go over there with your brothers without education nor a plan. LOL Man just imagine if in the mid-90’s Black Salafis had, had that same mindset of being educated?
Yeah Ahki I’m leaving but before I head to E.O. or Philly I’m going to get my college education so I can be productive and contribute when I get there… mashaAllah
@ Abu Usamah al-Aswad
You’re a fool. You have many preconceived notions and stereotypes of people that just seem to kick in automatically when you encounter someone; and they’re just dead wrong, which makes you look stupid.
If you knew anything about the Deen you would know that It’s not haraam to learn something beneficial in the dunyah, from the kuffar. The Messenger of Allaah (salallaahu alayhi wa salam) used to send some of the Sahaabah (radiyallaahu anhum) to learn things that were needed.
You would know that dunyawiyy knowledge is Fard Kifayyah on the Ummah, and the proof for it is the Ayah,
8:60 And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war (tanks, planes, missiles, artillery, etc.) to threaten the enemy of Allâh and your enemy, and others besides whom, you may not know but whom Allâh does know. And whatever you shall spend in the Cause of Allâh shall be repaid unto you, and you shall not be treated unjustly.
Allaah may forgive you, or He may give you what you deserve for whatever evil lurks behind your asinine statements mocking the Muslims, as if they are not your brothers too, who live in Muslim countries.
“…could be that if you go to your brothers overseas in darul-Islam without that endorsement of education from the kafir you are going to get treated like crap and won’t be able to provide for youself. LOL…”
and
“…you know better than to go over there with your brothers…”
You’re a fool and the sad thing is, because you don’t know it, you can’t do anything about it.
RE: “…get your degree go over there teach English…”
Alhamdulullaah, I already got a degree. Incidentally, it’s my opinion that getting degrees in anything other than science, engineering or business is a complete waste of time. “Sorry” to debunk your myths about Salafis, but I won’t be teaching english, Inshallaah. Now don’t you feel stupid.
@ Abu Usamah al-Aswad
RE: “The Muslim with the help of Allah must seek to change his the culture of the environment in which he is living, towards Islamic values or leave.”
Bring your proof from the Book of Allaah, the Sunnah, or the Seerah, that the Muslim is to do what you suggested above. Bring your proofs. NONE of the Prophets did this (alayhimus salaatu wa salam)!!!!!!!!! Their Da’wah was to eradicate shirk, which is to call to and teach Tawheed.
The Messenger of Allaah (salallaahu alayhi was salam) gave da’wah for thirteen years without any Ayaat about legislation or Shari’eeah reaching him. For ten of those years there wasn’t even Salaat! Low-self esteem, miseducation, fornication, poverty!?! Show us where the Prophet (salallaahu alayhi wa salam) focused on these issues during the Meccan period…you sound like some ignorant WD follower!!
LOL LOL “debunk” you are kidding right, surely you just?
Your posts are the classic Black Salafi stereotype rude beligerant lacking adab, brainwashed by abridged and intropolated translations from darus-Islam publications, cut-n-paste gurus who’ve never sat with a scholar who explained the deen to them in english, no ijazahs just talk and type.
But you still didn’t bring your proofs, so you resorted to just talking smack about irrelevant stuff; which is the standard ploy of the ignorant.
Typcially, you got your facts misconstrued because Darus Salam are NOT Salafis; they just happen to publish books by both classical scholars everyone takes from and contemporary Salafi scholars because of their popularity, alhamdulullaah.
@Daud
Reject any of your arguments to bring proof of anything simply because you have no teacher. Provide the name of your teacher proofs for what I wrote
Yeah I forgot you also debunk the stereotype the Black Salafis that they half quote and misquote in order the create strawmen arguements LOL you are a riot.
Time for tahajjud
@ Daud
Please do so that you can leave us “little people” here in America alone. I sincerely pray that you and EVERYONE like you are able to go so that you guys can stop looking down your noses at the rest of humanity
Daud ignore this abu usamah .he’s not saying anything beneficial. @abu usamah al aswad who have you sat with?????????What ijaazaat do you possess???????You ended of the argument,, with no matter what the prophet says your gonna claim a bastard child as yours!!!!! That show your understanding…Unilzzted….2008-2009
@Zaid
unfortunately, we are stuck with them, because in Saudi there is no route to citizenship for the Black Salafi male nor his children so they will always be Blackamerican.
And they just will always end up coming back.
Unlike the US in which any child born here has the full rights of a citizen, there if your father isn’t Saudi then its a wrap.
Also while here in the US the “kafir” government’s many social services to provide a safety net for families, not saying every Black Salafi family needs this, but the safety net is still here. In Saudi not only do they not have that same safety net (discounting the US counsulate or embassy) muhajirs aren’t even welcomed, they are kick out. So many them resort to lying and being dishonest by over staying temporary visas. Hijrah indeed.
No the Saudi society isn’t all bad my wife’s uncle has lived for about 25 to 30 years, thing is that “PROFESSIONAL” Americans (Muslim or not) are simply treated FAR better than the poor Black Salafi muhajir.
They can’t even engage in the basic Muslim right of trade, without being a mawla of a Saudi.
So many start in Saudi or Yemen but end up in the Emirates.
The bright side is that for some their travels jolts them back reality and they actually come back to America or travel back and forth all the while understanding the proper way to call people to tawheed.
unlissted
The days of the joy riders are coming to an end they will be ferreted out and exposed. One day soon the Masjids across America will have the list of those who seek to skirt their responsibilies posted, not only them but wife beaters also. No longer will the weakest of the community women and children be exploited the misguided teaching a selfserving brand of Islam. The days of the drive by wali is coming to an end. The true walis will be protecting sisters inshaAllah
Uttering the shahadtayn doesn’t negate ones responsibilities to family whether parent or child.
@ Tariq
Can one party refuse arbitration and go directly to the courts?
@Rasheed
arbitration agreements can be either a pre-nuptual or post-nuptual. that is at the onset of the marriage both parties agree that in case a marrital problems they will have the matter settled in accordance by Islamic law, there is no opting out once a decision has been rendered, on the other hand neither party can force the other into Islamic mediation or arbitration if it were never agreed to in the first place.